
December 2011 Visa Bulletin for the FY 2012 was released today. December visa bulletin brought 4.5 month movement for the EB-2 China and EB-2 India categories., thus moving it to the most favorable cur-off dates ever. EB3 categories advanced as expected with EB3-ROW-M-P moving by 3 weeks. EB3-India and China moved as expected. All other categories are current as expected. Family Based category saw some movement.
Employment-Based (EB)
Below is a summary of the December 2011 Visa Bulletin with respect to employment-based petitions:
- EB-1 remains current across the board.
- EB-2 remains current for EB-2 ROW, Mexico and Philippines. EB-2 India and EB-2 China both move forward by four and a half (4.5) months to March 15, 2008.
- EB-3 ROW, EB-3 Mexico and EB-3 Philippines move forward by only three (3) weeks to January 15, 2006, EB-3 China moves forward by two (2) weeks to September 8, 2004, while EB-3 India moves forward by only one (1) week to August 1, 2002.
- The “other worker” category remains unchanged (again) at April 22, 2003 for China. It moves forward by one and a half (1.5) months for ROW, Mexico and Philippines to January 1, 2006. It also moves forward by five (5) weeks for India to July 22, 2002.
Family-Based (FB)
Below is a summary of the December 2011 Visa Bulletin with respect to family-based petitions:- FB1 moves forward (again, for third consecutive month). FB1 ROW, China and India all move forward by five (5) weeks to September 1, 2004. FB1 Mexico moves forward by one (1) week to April 8, 1993 and FB1 Philippines moves forward by three (3) weeks to March 1, 1997.
- FB2A moves forward by five (5) weeks to March 22, 2009 for ROW, China, India, and Philippines. FB2A Mexico moves forward by two (2) months to February 8, 2009.
- FB2B ROW, China and India move forward by two (2) weeks to August 15, 2003. FB2B Mexico remains unchanged at November 22, 1992. FB2B Philippines moves forward by one (1) month to August 15, 2001.
VISA AVAILABILITY IN THE COMING MONTHS
No Notes
EB Categories
No Notes
Demand Data Comparison for December & November 2011 Visa Bulletin Movement
EB3-ROW-M-P Future Movement
EB3-ROW-M-P moved to cut-off date of 15 January 2006 as expected based on current demand and available visas used on monthly basis. I do not want to sound like a broken record, but there is always some hidden demand and other regularly old PD cases that continuously become documentarily qualified, thus receiving visas from the monthly allocation. Some of these cases are old and are captured in I-485 pending inventory. On average 1500-1600 demand is generally reduced on a monthly basis from the available inventory. With the released I-485 pending inventory and recently released demand data, it is becoming more and more obvious that cut-off dates for FY 2012 for this category may not cross 01 August 2006. We will keep an eye on the demand data but anything more than this is less plausible so far.
EB3-India & China Future Movement
EB3-India will continue to move 1 week in each visa bulletin. There could be some substantial movement later in the year but so far this will be the trend. EB3-China is difficult to predict due to high consular processing demand but we expect it to move and cross into PD 2005 for this fiscal year.
EB2-India & China Movement
Dates for EB2-IC has crossed into cut-off date of March 2008. It is impressive to see that Mr. Oppenheim is taking different approach this year and we should applaud him for his efforts. Since Mr. Oppenheim is taking different course for FY 2012, we believe that we should also keep our dogmatic approach to number crunching away for sometime until it make sense to do so. We should try to speculate what can happen in next few bulletins and successive months from their until summer 2012. We may be 'out to lunch' with this approach but can very well veer back to number crunching if this does not make sense in next few bulletins.
We believe retrogression is imminent in summer 2012; only exception will be HR 3012 if it will become a law by that time. We know that current movement upto March 2008 from 15 April 2007(Sep VB date) would easily bring demand that could end up using around 28K-30K visas from 140,000 available EB category visas. These are definitely in par with what we would usually see year-to-year with EB2-IC spillover + 5600 annual limits.
Question is so what can we expect from Mr. Oppenheim hereon? Firstly, we can say he has no clue that what real demand is due to such movement and lets presume he might not get hold off this until next two months ( that too only if he decides to persuade USCIS to tell him the numbers based on receipts issued).In reality, he may have to wait for real count on demand until April-May 2012 when such cases will start to become documentarily qualified and USCIS will start requesting for visa numbers.
That said, Mr. Oppenheim may not still be done with intaking more applications for this fiscal year. First, based on past year trend on visa use, monthly demand and estimations, EB2-IC had always moved around 11 months each year. By moving dates upto March 2008, he had just covered those bases. But still he does not know what would happen with HR 3012, whether it will pass with effective date of 01 September 2011. We know from our estimation on this bill, that cut-off dates until PD June 2008 would easily be current if this bill is passed. With approximation on fall-outs due to unforeseen reason, we can expect PD July-August 2008 to be current. If Mr. Oppenheim will stop such movement from next visa bulletin, he may miss that window on keeping cases ready for adjudication in case HR 3012 will become a law as he mentioned in previous bulletin that it can take 4-6 months to get these cases adjudicated. As I mentioned ,this is a speculation and I may be out to lunch but we believe in coming bulletin(s), EB2-IC dates may move all the way from June 2008-August 2008. Once, DOS will have enough applications in hand, it will be pretty straight forward for DOS to retrogress EB2-IC or EB2-ROW in summer 2012, whatever is appropriate based on fate of the bill.
Now who can expect Green Card for FY 2012? and how will dates retrogress? One thing to keep in mind with USCIS is that they will approve cases randomly usually based on month of filings, regardless of Priority Date. Now since most of the July 2007 backlog is cleared, I believe in 4 to 6 months when such cases will start becoming documentarily qualified, we will start to see approvals. Usually in such case, application filed at NSC will have upper hand compared to TSC filings due to vast difference in processing times. Generally during these months of the year, TSC will only approve 6000-8000 cases and NSC will approve around 10,000 cases consistently. So please do not be surprised if NSC case that become current in December bulletin will see approval before November bulletin cases. This is very common with USCIS. Approvals will be random. File your cases as perfect as possible so that you do not receive RFEs. In general, FY 2012 for EB2-IC will be exceptional with respect to approvals, with dates all over from August 2007 PD to March 2008 PD getting randomly approved. Once DOS will feel that enough visa numbers are used for EB2-IC based on EB1 and EB2-ROW demand, at that time dates may retrogress upto PD 01 Sep 07- 01 Nov 07. This is when we will start to see some huge numbers in demand data and we can go back to our number crunching and predictions based on calculations. For some time we believe VB movement and approvals at USCIS will be random.
Good Article. With out HR 3012, where can the dates go back??. My PD is June 07, applied AOS 2 weeks ago. Any idea when i can get GC??.
Thanks,
GC
Thanks for all your help.
One quick question. My priority date (Nov 25 2007 EB2I) became current as per December Visa bulletin. However, I will be travelling to India on Nov 15 and will be back on Dec 10. I am thinking of applying for I-485 (myself and wife) after coming back. How long does the whole process (medical check up, etc.,) take? Is there enough time to complete everything and submit application by end of December ? or Am I cutting too close.
Cheers
My PD is June 2008, put I just filed for new PERM under EB2I. If dates move beyond June 2008 in next 2 bulletins, do u think they will stay there (not retrogress) in March 2012, which is when I will be probably filing the I-485.
Appreciate your response.
AM
Thans for your analysis, it is of great help to us. I missed the dates by exactly 30 days as my priority dates are April'16'2008. IS there a chance that i will be able to file my AOS by january VB or should i have to wait for next year.
Thanks,
TTDT
If the number of go applicants in 2008-09 was signicantly less due to bad economy, would it be correct to assume that the PD for these two yrs will move relatively quickly compared to say 2006-07?
Thanks
The articles/blog really helped me in keeping hope.
y'day my PD got current :).
Thanks once again & keep up the good work.
A friend sent me this link as he thinks I am most knowledgeable in "field" of green card (the secret is I read your blog and show off !! )
any way it is very interesting but not sure if it is reliable!
http://www.usadiversitylottery.com/news/green-card/green-card-immigration-news-sep022009.php
Any thoughts?
thanks
I-485 TSC -29 March 2011
NSC - 4 months
I-140 TSC - 4 months
NSC - May 2011
I like your blog so much. Thanks for help :-)..Mine PD is 04/22/08 eb2-india? is there any chance it will become current during coming bulletin.
Thank you so much.
1. I went to my Doctor to get the list of vaccines I need to take for Medical check up. Blood test results took one week for me and then I took the only one vaccine missing in my Body.
2. Then I took the vaccine results to my USCIS doctor. for the Skin test, you need to go back to the doctor after two days to check the TB Skin test result. For me, it was Positive on Skin Test.
3. Then I went to the other hospital to get the X-Ray done and X-Ray results took 4 more days. Luckily I am ok with my X-Ray results. Finally It took me 15 days to get the Medical Report.
4. Also remember bank letter some time might take one week. Finally My 485 filed on 11th Nov.
It takes time to get the documents ready.
i didn't understand when you said bank letter, What bank letter do we need submit when applying I-485.
Thanks for sharing this info.
For the positive skin test, do you've to take medication and once it is cured you can file for 485?
doctor has done skin test as part of regular medical exam. my test was +ve. She recommended me to take meds for 6 months.
My PD is Mar 2010 EB-2. I'm not sure, if skin test effects the GC application processing??
Thanks
GC
When can you update your GC Calculator? Thank you!
I check out your blog every day. Can't wait to see your January 2012 VB prediction.
When will the the fingerprint notice be sent out after 485 filing?
How long does it usually take now to complete background check?
Thank you.
EB2C
Thanks for your continuous effort in keeping this site up to date. Hundreds and thousands of people wait for your updates and suggestions regarding immigrations issues. Thank you from all of us for your hard work.
My PD became current in December Bulletin and i noticed that i have a small problem with the Birth Certificate. The Place of Birth on my Birth Certificate is the 'XXX' the name of the village that i was born where is in my passport the place of birth is 'YYY' the name of the District in which the village 'XXX' is located. I just realized this difference of information. Now i am confused and worried if this will cause a problem. Can you please give you valuable suggestion ASAP. Also please suggest what information i should fill in the Place of Birth column in the 485 application.
Thank you.
Last time you mentioned Nov-07 would make it this year for their GC.
Above article, you mentioned dates may retrogress upto PD 01 Sep 07- 01 Nov 07. This is contradictory to what you said above. So please clarify.
i am talking about EB2-IC
thanks
VG
With a PD of Feb 15, if the VB falls on that day are you current or do you need to wait on the next VB.
My January 2012 vb prediction for EB3 ROW M P is Feb.15,06. What do you think?
Amigo
Do u think this is a reasonable prediction?
http://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/article.asp?articleid=152118&login=true&nogo=1
EB-2 India & China
Jan '12 --- 07/01/2008
Feb '12 --- 11/01/2008
Mar '12 --- 11/01/2008
Apr '12 --- 11/01/2008
May '12 --- 11/01/2008
June '12 --- Possible Retrogression
Ameet
Thank you for reading our blog and I am glad you are grasping it and spreading knowledge because who knows for how long will I continue this blog and some one will have to pass on the knowledge. :)
my pd feb 15 2006 eb3 row
could i filed with uscis if the next viza bulletin reach feb 15 2006?
thanks
I think it will move till 08/2008 at the most and stop. In the last visa bulletin they removed the RETROGRESSION note that was their in the Nov bulletin. This looks positive.
You mean if skin test is positive and if chest xray is negative or it'll not show problem then it is OK??
Thanks,
GC
My pd is 17 march 2008,(eb2 I ) missed this bulletin by 2 days hopefully I shud be current in the next one,given the scenario that I become current in jan bulletin when can i expect my EAD and when can get my GC,I deeply value your input.An aprx figure wud be greatly appreciated.thanks a lot in advance..as usual gr8 job gr8 site :).
KS.
based on updated USCIS I-140 dashboard:http://dashboard.uscis.gov/index.cfm?formtype=7&office=91&charttype=1
People(various other sites) are expecting no movement to retrogression in next VB. What is your analysis based on this information .
Do you still think will there be any forward movement at all for this FY.
it is better to upgrade or post the new prediction in the light of new trends. what you think?
My I-485 application was filed on 11/16/2011.
How long it will take to receive the GC?
Thanks in advance for your response.
Thanks,
-karthi
My EB2I PD is Jan 25 2008. Do you think I have chance to get GC in this fiscal year?
Thanks!
what does it mean ?
I heard about H.R 3012 that in 18th of November ,They put it into union calendar,calendar 193.
It means that it goes forward!!!!
Please give me your opinion
thanks
My GC had approved. I hv received RFE (1) Geographical Location and (2) H1B rejection.
Thanks for your advise when I posted my concerns in the month of noverber.
As soon as Attorney submitted the letter to USCIS, approved in a Day and got GC card in 3 days.
Thanks for your support.
This brought some optimism for me.