Wednesday, July 13, 2011

August 2011 Visa Bulletin and Estimation for September 2011


Wednesday, July 13, 2011 | , , , , , ,

August 2011 Visa Bulletin was released  yesterday For Employment-Based category, EB-3 overall saw some movement in cut-off dates for each country. EB2 is current for all other countries except India and China. EB-2 India-China advanced to 15th April 2007. EB1, EB4 and EB5 are still current. Some movement for Family-Based categories overall.

Family-Based
  • Family 1st – FB1 remains unchanged across all regions at May 1, 2004 for ROW, China and India, at March 8, 1993 for Mexico and at April 15, 1996 for Philippines.
  • Family 2A –FB2A moves forward by four (4) months to July 22, 2008 for ROW, China, India, and Philippines.  FB2A Mexico moves forward by four and a half (4.5) months to June 1, 2008.
  • Family 2B – FB2B ROW, China and India remains unchanged at July 1, 2003.  FB2B Mexico moves forward by only one (1) week to October 1, 1992.  FB2B Philippines moves forward by two (2) months to December 1, 2000..
  • Family 3rd – most countries moved to August 2001; Philippines  to November 1992; Mexico retrogressed to April 1992.
  • Family 4th – most countries moved to April 2000; Philippines stalled at 15 May 1988; Mexico stalled at March 1996.

Employment-Based
  • EB-1 remains current across the board.
  • EB-2 ROW (Rest of World), Mexico and Philippines remain current while EB-2 China and EB-2 India both move forward by almost five (5) weeks to April 15, 2007.
  • EB-3 ROW and EB-3 Philippines move forward by three (3) weeks to November 1 , 2005, EB-3 China  moves forward by only one (1) week to July 8, 2004, while EB-3 India  moves forward by one (1) month to June 1, 2002.  EB-3 Mexico moves forward by over five (5) months to November 1, 2005.
  • The “other worker” category remains unchanged (again) at  April 22, 2003 for China.  It moves forward by over five (5) months to May 1, 2005 for ROW, Mexico and Philippines.  It moves forward by one  (1) month to June 1, 2002 for India .
  • Employment 4th – still current in all categories
  • Employment 5th – still current in all categories



VISA AVAILABILITY Notes from August Visa Bulletin

Family-sponsored: Heavy applicant demand for numbers in the Family First preference could require retrogression of some of the September Family First preference cut-off dates. This action may be necessary to keep visa issuances within the respective annual preference numerical limits. If this were to occur they could be expected to return to the previous cut-off date for October, the first month of the new fiscal year.

Employment-based: No Notes !!!!


Determination of annual limit for this fiscal year
 
The State Department is required to make a determination of the worldwide numerical limitations, as outlined in Sections 201(c) and (d) of the INA, on an annual basis. These calculations are based in part on data provided by U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services (USCIS) regarding the number of immediate relative adjustments in the preceding year and the number of aliens paroled into the United States under Section 212(d)(5) in the second preceding year. Without this information, it is impossible to make an official determination of the annual limits. To avoid delays in processing while waiting for the CIS data, the Visa Office (VO) bases allocations on the minimum annual limits outlined in Section 201 of the INA. On June 9th, USCIS provided the required data to VO. (Also hints why no demand data was released, since complete data from CIS was received on June 9th and July bulletin was released on June 8th.)

The Department of State has determined the Family and Employment preference numerical limits for FY-2011 in accordance with the terms of Section 201 of the INA. These numerical limitations for FY-2011 are as follows:
Worldwide Family-Sponsored preference limit: 226,000
Worldwide Employment-Based preference limit: 140,000
Under INA Section 202(a), the per-country limit is fixed at 7% of the family and employment annual limits. For FY-2011 the per-country limit is 25,620. The dependent area annual limit is 2%, or 7,320.


Our Analysis on EB Category after August Visa Bulletin Release

EB3-ROW-M-P - EB3 ROW moved by three weeks to November 01, 2005. As seen with last few months, EB3-ROW only used 1500 visas from the visible demand. EB3-Mexico has utilized 5085 visa numbers for this year and has reached same level as EB3-ROW-P. Going forward EB3-ROW-M-P will move together. Since EB-3 category will not receive any spillover, we expect EB3-M-P to move by 4 weeks to 01 December 2005 for this fiscal year. This movement is based on at least 3188  (ROW-2584 +  M-304 + P-300 ) available visa numbers for EB3-ROW-M-P together. Please note, since each of these countries shares sames cut-off date, going forward for next month at least, they will share same cut-off date.

EB3-India - EB3 India moved one month due to decrease in demand due to porting case. Decrease in demand was 500. This along with monthly limit of 233, allowed total movement of 733 (Inventory upto May - Inventory upto April = 2710-2050). Even if there is no further reduction in demand due to porting, we still expect EB3-India to reach 15th June 2002 for this fiscal year just using 233 number of visas.


EB3-China - EB3-China may only move by a week or two for the coming bulletin. It is difficult to gauge movement for EB3-China due to high volume of invisible CP demand.

EB2-India  &  China - We believe EB2 India and China advanced to 15 April 2007 by utilizing at least 2580 additional unused visa numbers from EB1, EB2-ROW and EB5.

Number of applicants from 08March07 to 15April07 

[26469 + (28498-26469)/2] - [24383 + (26469 – 24383)/4 ]

= 27484 – 24904

= 2580



Till date visas used for this movement


= 22,875 (used upto 08Mar07)  + 5,600 (annual quota) + 2,580 (used in this bulletin)


= 31,055


At this point of time we would like to revisit our potential spillover source for the current fiscal year. We know that EB1 was suppose to give us 12,000 unused visa. It was never clear to us whether it was  a half-yearly or full-yearly projected numbers. After June 2011 released inventory, EB2-ROW was projected to have demand around 26,600 - 28,600 annual, yielding around 6000-8000 unused visa numbers. As per recent released EB5 visa usage number, it was quoted that EB5 demand can be as high as 4,260, thus yielding only 9,400 4230 = 5170 unused visa numbers. So putting these together with 5,600 annual quota for EB2-IC, available visas for EB2-IC becomes

EB1 + EB2-ROW + EB5 + EB2-IC annual quota

= 12000 + 8000 + 5170 +5600

= 30,770


Now from this, all we can conclude is  for EB1, 12K was a projected demand for half year, but  real demand did not convert into 24K. On average, we were hoping to get more 6K from EB1.  But  looking at the current movement, numbers expected now can be anywhere from 3K-6K. Of these expected EB1 numbers, we have already used 500 (31,055 - 30,770).

EB5 usage has been  a very big disappointment (or tough one to digest) for this year ; instead of yielding 7000 unused visa, it would only yield(ed) 5170 visas.

Taking EB1 and EB5 demand into account, worst case movement for September bulletin will be based on use of 2,500 unused visa numbers while best case could be around the use of 5,500 unused visa numbers.

Once date will reach July 2007, new cases, PWMBs and some porting will slow down the movement for Q1 and early Q2. Like this year, we can expect significant movement of priority dates in late Q2 or early Q3 of FY 2012. Movement upto first quarter of 2008 is possible with some retrogression in late Q3. We should remember NVC fee bill is valid upto one year.

Update from www.mitbbs.com

On 18th July there was some update on this site that where they mentioned that someone talked to Mr. Oppenheim through FOIA  or other means (please excuse my translation) and he mentioned that up until now only 121000 visas were used for EB category and at least 19k is still to be used in coming months.

The news on 19K visas available was confirmed in two ways as below

Method A

As per recent data released by USCIS until March 2011 for I-485- Employment Based.

http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Resources/Reports/Forms-Data/all-forms-2011-2nd-Qtr.pdf

I-485 Employment Adjustment upto March 2011 approvals are 45,981. At this rate , aprovals for I-485 for full year becomes, 91,962. Adding unused visa numbers used so far, total EB visas used for this year becomes 91962+30000 (SO used so far) = 121,962. So atleast 19K looks is still left from whole fiscal year. This suggest published information on www.mitbbs.com is very authentic and we might have anywhere from 12k-19k total EB visas avaiable for EB category for September.No CP demand included.


Method B

As per data that was released by USCIS day before yesterday -http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Resources/Reports/Application-for-Benefits/applications-for-benefits-2011-may.pdf , it suggests total I-485 application to adjust status received until May 2011 are 47,721.
Based on previously released USCIS Approval/Receipt information until March 2011;
I-485 Approved were – 45,981
I-485 Received were – 36,492
Approval/Receipt ratio – 1.26
Assuming same ratio for this newly released data until May 2011 – Approvals can be near – 1.26 x 47,721 = 60,128.This is for 8 months. 
For full year FY2011 – it becomes 12 x 60,128/8 = 90,192.

Again adding spillover used so far, total consumption becomes = 90,192 + 30,000 = 120,192

So visas available for September bulletin, again becomes 140,000 – 120,192 ~ 19K.

Other way to validate 19K news from www.mitbbs.com

Note - It does not include CP demand.

Out of these 19K how much can we expect for EB2-IC?

In above calculations we have not included any CP demand in this. CP demand can be anywhere from 5%-15%. Taking 5%, CP demand will make these 121,000 used EB visa number for FY 2011 until now to 127,000 visas used for EB category after including AOS + CP demand.

Then we should also remember that as per released USCIS data, I-140 stats until March 2011 suggests that for 42,096 receipts, there were only 30,820 approvals. So even if we assume that this difference was constantly maintained for entire year, there are still chances some of these 12000 would contain EB2-ROWs. Some of these remaining visa numbers from 19K will be used for such cases when they will be approved and become documentarily qualified. Even if 10% of these are EB2-ROW, we can have 1200 demand from EB2-ROW. Then addition to this we also have usual monthly demand for EB2-ROW, which can be anywhere from 500 -1500.

We do not know anything about EB1 demand. At this point when USCIS processing time has reduced to 4 months, we can see some of these EB1s can get attention. These EB1 approvals will take some visa numbers. I think in month of August, we can see many EB1 approvals as movement for EB2-IC is only 5 weeks for August bulletin. In addition with reduced backlog, some good numbers of EB1 approvals are expected in August.

In general EB3 demand for a month can be anywhere from 2400 + 4(233) = 3332.

So now if we will consider all these aspects, what EB2-IC can expect is

= 19000 - (CP + EB2-ROW(due to I-140) + regular EB2-ROW + EB1 + EB3) demand

= 19000 - (6000 + 1200 + 1000 + 1000 + 3332) = 6468


Thus numbers available for EB2-IC can be anywhere from 3500 - 8000. So movement can be anywhere from 1 June 2007 - 15 August 2007. It all depends upon demand for last month and we have no basis to come up with exact numbers.

I have not considered EB4 and EB5, which can take few 20-50 numbers here and there.Other than EB4-EB5, there are some PWMBs and dependents who has filed until July visa bulletin, who can become documentarily qualified by September 30.



EB2-IC September 2011 Priority Date Movement

P.S. - Whenever I have been conservative, we have seen great movement for EB2-IC.. I hope it works out like that this time as well.


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Mustafa Tapiya said...

Hi CM ; what does your lawyer friend has to say about sept. Visa bulletin ?will we see a big movement ?

ich said...

hi my PD is sept 2006 EB3 ROW. When will it b current? Any Chances till end of this year?

edskie said...

HI CM; what will happen if visa cert is expired on the day of interview? Thank you.

edskie said...

Hi CM: Any updates on prediction of Sept Visa Bulletin. Thank you...

Rajk said...

Hi CM, my PD is Aug 28th 2007 in EB2. When it will be current?

ich said...

ich
my case has been transferred to NYC april 2010,
thanks

vishwas said...

Thanks guys.....Atleast if I have a chance to get my EAD before Dec 2012 then I can wait..Appreciate all your good work CM.

vishwas said...

Let say Sep 2011 - EB2IC goes till 01 Aug 2007.....In Oct 2011 will the dates retrogress or linger there till April 2012(which is Q2-Q3 period) and start moving up again?

One more question. - I have changed employers and my previous employer filed in EB2. My 140 was approved and after 8 months I moved to another employer. The new employer is also planning to re-file under EB2. We know that we can port the date. But if that original PD becomes current and my current employer is still doing ads before filing my labor - By the time my labor and 140 is approved and the dates retrogress...should I wait again for the date to become current? or can I file my 485?

Omar_56santander said...

Hi

I am current since May 2011. My case was transferred from NBC to TSC in April 20 2011. After that I did a service request they told that my case is under additional review for 60 days. In August 12 I will be done with the 60 days. What action should I take after that or will atomaticly I will get my green card?


Thanks

Abcdefg Unicorn said...

Hi CM,

Based on ALIA EB1 demand release what would be the worst case scenario for Sep bulettin EB2IC moment?

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

If papers were sent for each family member to NVC then after that it was said you are documentarily qualified then it is correct , it means everyone is documentarily qualified. If it is said you are DQ then it means your visa bill was paid in time.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Anywhere from 1.5-2 years from today.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

I would say around 8 months from today you should be current.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Numbers that I used are monthly allotment of visas for EB3 ROW - 2400 and EB3-I,M,P & C, each is 233. So total EB3 demand = 2400 + (4* 233) = 3332

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Will let you know by tomorrow.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Not for next fiscal year but may be around December 2012. Too early to say anything.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

I think it should be fine, day or two is acceptable.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Related to which country - category? I think we will stick to what we mentioned in our previous article. EB2-IC movement is all based on spillover left. Others should move as mentioned in the article.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

I think somewhere in Q2 FY 2012 unless we see dates reaching 22 July 2007 or more in September bulletin.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

I would say linger around for sometime.

If PD becomes current and you filed I-485 using previous labor then you need to use offer or employment verification letter from old employer satisfying Labor condition on old PERM. You can then switch to new PERM and I -140 only when dates are current again.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Did they mention anything about the reason for extra 60 days? I will call USCIS ans ask for the reason. Talk to Level 2 Rep mentioning I am not satisfied with the reason mentioned. I will try and contact local congressman or Senator office and ask them to get reason about this wait and expected approval date. Next time while talking to USCIS Level 2 Rep note down his Agent ID number and give this to senator or congressman office for further inquiry.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Worst case is June 1st 2007 PD.

edskie said...

Hi CM;
What if visa screen certificate has expired a year ago? Is there a chance for a consular interview. What about issuance of VISA.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

No it is not possible. A day or two may be possible but nothing more than that.

edskie said...

Thank you for clarification.

Guest said...

CM, what is your prediction on July 2009 PD, EB2-India? when do you think it would be current, based on how things are at the moment?

ichjoy said...

Please, it is possible that somebody got a green card before it is presented in bulettine?
Why has my case translated into NYC (april 2010) - is a chance that I get GC before?
PD sept.2006
thank you

MS said...

Hi CM! I'd like to commend you for your great analysis. My PD is July 28, 2008 EB3 Philippines. When can I get my green card?

Thanks in advance.

MS

mdlr2004 said...

thanks a lot cm ...you made my day.!!!

SK said...

Hi CM,

What a great blog you have. Stumbled on this recently and love it.

My PD is July 20, 2007 EB2 India. I have used only 3 years of my H1 so far and have been working on EAD for about 2 years now. With the PD being so close, I am hoping I will be current in Sept bulletin.

My company now wants to apply for H1 as a backup for my 485 filing. I am concerned if this impacts my existing case in any way. Is it safe?Should I ask them to wait?

Thanks in advance.

SK

SR said...

Hi CM,

Can we expect movement beyond September 2011 assuming that they do not have any pending cases? If yes, then what will be the number of visas that would be available at the start of the new FY 2012?
Can we expect 1 or 2 months of movement from Oct 2011 to April 2012 ? Or
Will it stick to only a single date until the spillover is available as it has been traditionally?

MB said...

CM, I am current in August bullienten, Finally i filed today. When can i get receipt numbers for EAD, AP and 485?. How long it will take on average?
Thanks
MB

CM said...

So here is the update from my friend at the law firm. This is what they expect in September bulletin and Q1 of FY 2011. I am just posting the facts he quoted. How accurate it is unknown to me like everyone here who is speculating some good movement for next visa bulletin.

1) There is decent increase in the I-485 filings for EB1 in last two months. On average EB1 approvals are not that high but are coming regularly. They are hoping for some increase in approvals in last two months.

2) EB2 filings are still at same level like previous few months. No surge in EB2 approvals. Trend in approval is shifting more downwards compared to last few months.

3) They have filed lot of I-485 cases for EB2-IC since May 2011. These are mostly those who did not file in July 2007 (primary + dependent) and only for dependents of primary applicants who filed in July 2007. The firm alone has filed around 250-300 such applications For May-July VB.

4) They at the firm believe movement for September 2011 VB will be equivalent to last month’s VB. They believe dates will just cross PD May 2007.

5) After September 2011 VB, dates will keep on moving by one week until Q1 of FY 2012 and then stall until May 2012.

6) They believe that EB3-ROW-M-P and EB3-I will move more than usual in Sep VB. (I am very surprised at this statement. This is only possible if some visa numbers are left from annual quota for each category)

CM – This is update from our friend. My take for EB2-IC is still at 15 June 2007 for September VB.

abcdefg unicorn said...

Hi CM,

Is the below statement true for EB2 I?


" After September 2011 VB, dates will keep on moving by one week until Q1 of FY 2012 and then stall until May 2012."

Cause we normally see no moment after Septemeber for Eb2 I.

CM said...

Sorry , let me mention

2) is applicable for EB2-ROW
5) is applicable for EB2-IC. I think it can only be true if dates will end around 01 June 2007.

Yes anyone with PD May 2007 can expect to be current as per him.

nursedubai said...

Hi CM,

It means to say that EB3 Row-M-P-I will move more than 1 month? as you predicted? well, I just hope 5 weeks to 3 months is the best.
What can you say on this? is it possible to move more than usual?
Thanks in advance!

rpprn said...

Hi Cm,
My PD is Nov. 21, 2005 EB3 P, according to the NVC my case was already completed on May 2008, what does it mean? what is my next step in case my PD will be reached? Do we need to file DS 230 again? Thanks

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

3-4 years from now. Sorry I do not have my calculations in front of me as of now but I remember November 2008 is at least 2 years from now.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Not possible to get before dates will become current. All NVC want to do is keep you qualified in case dates will become current for your category.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

I will answer tomorrow when I have my calculations in front of me.

a csc said...

Hi CM,
I stumbled on this blog 2 days ago, and feel it is by far the best. Thank you for all your efforts.

Category: EB2 India
Priority Date: March 15, 2007
I-140 Approved: May 2007
I-485 filed; Aug 2007
I-485 Notice date: Sept 27 2007

Bio-Metrics:2 times since filing 485
Service Center: NSC
Changed company 1 time since filing I-485 and AC21 was filed

I need to make some crucial personal/family decisions in the next week or so, and hence wanted to ask you what is your best guesstimate for me to get my GC?

a csc said...

Hi CM,
I stumbled on this blog 2 days ago, and feel it is by far the best. Thank you for all your efforts.

Category: EB2 India
Priority Date: March 15, 2007
I-140 Approved: May 2007
I-485 filed; Aug 2007
I-485 Notice date: Sept 28, 2007

Bio-Metrics: 2 times since filing 485
Service Center: NSC
Changed company 1 time since filing I-485 and AC21 was filed
No RFE till now. Thank God
USCIS website status: Initial Review
I have 2 questions:
1. In your opinion, would my I-485 case have been pre-adjudicated …since I-485 was filed in Aug 2007 (a long time ago ) ? Is there a way for me to find out?

2. In your best guesstimate when will I get my GC?

I need to make some crucial professional and family decisions in the next week or so, and would appreciate your best educated guess.

Thanks,

-A CSC

a csc said...

Dear Moderator,
Please delete this post. Somehow I am not able to delete it. Some of the info is incorrect. ...so I have marked it as inappropriate. My other posting has the correct info and questions

Thanks,
A CSC

Anonymous said...

Hi CM,

What are the chances of Aug 9th 2007 for EB2I to be current in the Sep bulletin?

Thanks.

Mustafa Tapiya said...

Thx CM for the response !!

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slkfsdsj said...

When do they release September Visa Bulletin. Is it on Aug 12(Fri) or Aug 15(Mon).

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

I think when you are on EAD your status is AOS and when you have one pending application for change of status, you are not allowed to file for second COS without withdrawing first one. But this may exempted for H1B as it being dual intent. I would check with an attorney before taking this route.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

If dates will only reach July 2007 or end up somewhere in June 2007 then dates can move until 2800 visas are used. If something like this happened it will only move by 3-5 weeks based on 2800 annual limit after October 2011 only if dates end near earlyJune 2007. if dates end up in July 2007 then dates may not move until DOS wants to intake new cases or spillover is available as per statutory limit for EB2.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

It can take around 10 days to receive I-797C receipts and FP notice may take 15 days on average. Good luck.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

If this is true than usual is three weeks and it can mo e not more than 5-6 weeks. I do not know but possibility is less.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

No you do not need to. You should get call for interview after getting current. Good luck, you should be current this VB.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

You should be approved this month. May be you are approved by now. You can take info pass and see if you are pre adjudicated. I think you should be good to go as long as you used AC21 to move to similar job.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Chances are very less.

MS said...

My PD is July 2008 EB3 Phils. When do you think this will become current?

Thank you.

MS

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

It will be 12 Aug or before.

Sherryalea said...

Hi CM. Is your take for for September Visa Bulletin EB3, still the same? I have a PD of Feb 17, 2006. Thanks a whole lot and God Bless!

krishna said...

Hi CM,

Thanks for your very useful and excellent blog.

My PD is Jan 8th 2008... when can I expect my dates to be current?

Thanks

kasper said...

Sorry to interrupt this post. Just wanted to ask CM how long will it take to be current if my PD is Feb 2008 EB3 ROW

Anonymous said...

Thanks CM!....any thoughts when it could become current?

IABEN said...

Hi CM,

My PD is December 2005 for EB3-P with my husband and kids. My question is if ever my PD becomes current and have our visa this year, is it possible that I could go first to US and my family will follow probably after 3 months? Also, what’s the chance of my PD be current this coming VB?

Thanks,

Ali100000000 said...

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Guest said...

Hi CM,
What do you think of 29th August 2008 EB2, to get current

Dont Ask Dont Tell said...

Let me share some internal information regarding EB2 category for Indians and Chinese. Take it at your own merit. Dates for September bulletin will not move but retrogress to March. Very few folks who are current in August Visa Bulletin will see approvals this month.

Abcdefg Unicorn said...

How do you Know ?

CM said...

This is B.S> I have flagged it. I cannot login now to moderate it but will remove it by evening unless in the meatime he post anything about this source.

Eugene Filio said...

Hey CM,
My Priority Date is December 1402007 EB3 Philippines, may you tell me what your prediction is to when can i adjust my status?

PBTX said...

Hi CM,

Going through your posts and based on your discussion with your lawyer friend, dates may not move past june 2007 for EB2-IC category. But 19000 numbers availability can march EB2 category to july if 5500 numbers are available. What is your best guess with EB2-IC category? Thanks once again.
PBTX

Andy said...

Hi CM,
My PD is June 8 2007 EB2I. I am reading it somewhere, that PD date has to reach at least June 9 2007 to send my I485. Is it correct??. What happens if the Sept VB EB2 is June 8 2007, can i able to send my 485 application??.

Thanks,
Andy

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Atleast 5.5 years from today.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Yes it is still the same. 1-2 week here and there,

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Most likely in late Q1 2012

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Around 2-2.5 years from today.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

If not this Sep then anytime from Q1- Q3 FY 2012. It is all based on DHS strategy and number of PWMBs.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Yes that is possible. You guys do not need to enter together as long as each one of you have GC. You should be current in Sep-Oct bulletin. Good Luck.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Most probably in Q2 FY 2013. Good Luck.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

I will just leave this comment over here as a place holder in case dates will not move. Though it is very less likely but less approval in August are of concern.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Anywhere from 3.5-4 years.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Best guess is 15th June 2007. 1 week here and there.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Unfortunately, for you to file for AOS, PD has to be 15 June 2007 ( in simple words 9 June 2007 or more). You cannot file if cut-off date is 8 June 2007. Please note cut-off dates can ONLY be 1,8,15 and 22nd of each month.

Andy said...

Oh. Based on my PD June 8 2007. How long it will take to get EAD and then GC. If no RFE is in this process??.

Jadeytom said...

Hi,

Still think July 06 PD EB3 Phil will be current on 2013? Thanks.

Cuna_c said...

My PD is January 6, 2006, EB3 ROW. When I will be current? Thank you.

Dayton said...

Hi CM,

I just saw your blog today and I loved the way you have analyzed the numbers and came up with the dates.

My PD is Sep 12, 2008. When do you predict my PD will be current?

Thanks!

Guest said...

Forgot to mention the category...

EB2 India

IABEN said...

Hi CM,

Do you mean VISA for the word GC in your reply? As I know GC would be received after entering US. Please clarify.

By the way, is the US debt rating downgrade could have an impact with the current immigration system in the US?

Thanks again.

CM said...

Demand Data for September Visa Bulletin 2011 released.

EB3 Category CumulativeDemand Prior To
ROW China India Mexico Philippines Total
January 1, 2002 0--- 0--- 15-- 0 –---0---- 15
January 1, 2003 75-- 0 -5675- 0 ------0--- 5,750
January 1, 2004 100- 15- 17,550- 0 -10- 17,675
January 1, 2005 150- 1,550- 31,275- 0 -25 -33,000
January 1, 2006 4,700- 3,275- 40,175 -425 -1,350- 49,925
January 1, 2007 26,025 -4,450 -51,100- 2,250 -13,925 -97,750
January 1, 2011 34,050- 5,000 -55,250- 3,075 -16,400 -113,775


EB2 Category Cumulative Demand Prior
China India ROW Total
January 1, 2006 0--- 0 ----0--- 0
January 1, 2007 5 ---10--- 0-- 15
January 1, 2008 3,200 -4,800 -0 --8,000
January 1, 2011 3,250 -4,925 -100 -8,275

CM said...

Nothing new on EB2-IC side. Movement depends on visas left.

EB3-ROW may move to 22 Nov 2005 - 08 Dec 2005
EB3 -M will move with EB3-ROW.
EB3-P, it smay/may not move with EB3-ROW for this bulletin. Starting next month EB3-P will trail EB3-ROW.

EB3-ROW will cross 2006 in 2 months.

EB3 -I demand reduced by 6400 -733 (visas used for movement for lthe Aug) ~ 5675. Eb3-I can be anywhere from 8 June 2002 - 15 June 2002.

Mustafa Tapiya said...

CM, so for EB2-IC will be able to cross July 2007 or what is your best estimate

GuestDS said...

My PD is Sep14 2007 in EB2-I ,ant chance ? how long would it take ?

WaitingForGC said...

Hi CM, Amazing explaination. Quick Question.
I am Sept 2003 EB3. I know I have ways to go before current, but I wanted to find out if there was a way to add my wife to my pending I 485 so she can get an EAD and AP. What are your thoughts?

Guest said...

Any update to your predictions based on this new data?

AnjitaJain said...

CM,
Can you explain how the cumulative demand impact the september priority dates for eb2? My PD is Aug 7, 2008

Vijay Sharma said...

My PD is Sep 25, 2007 EB2I. When can I expect to get current?

Guest said...

Hello CM,

My PD is 14th Aug 2007 EB2I. When will i be current?

Krishna said...

Thanks. Please keep up the good work. It helps a lot of people like me.

eb2c said...

Dear CM:

Great info. Thank you for the analysis.

So it seems that 8000 visa demand is there before Jan. 1 2008 for EB2IC.

How many more demand from PWMB should be added to this number to predict the movement for the beginning of FY12?

When the VB will be released?

Thank you and appreciate always.

Juliet Borromeo said...

Hi sorry but didn't quite understand this statement " Eb3p will trail eb3row ". Thanks!!!

CMfan said...

Hi Experts,

I applied my I-485 (EB2I) on Aug 1st and I received receipt numbers yesterday. When I tried to check my status (USCIS) , it says number couldn't found. How long I need to wait to check my status? Appreciate your response.

Dhakaldoo said...

Hi CM,
Great blog. I am very new to the green card chase. Right now all I care is getting an EAD as I am on dependant visa to finally start a job. My PD is EB2 - nov 2010.
I was wondering if I could get EAD earlier than predicted (4-5 yrs) .
(I am not sure when ppl are asking you here about their pD they are talking about the EAD stage or the final green card.)
Thanks again!

CM said...

Look like this person really had some internal information.

Sep VB may be disappointing for EB2-IC but moved as expected for EB3 category. EB3-I movement by 5 weeks suggest that cut-off dates are clearly determined by reduction in demand data rather than inventory.

Rahul said...

Sept Bulletin is out. No movement for EB 2 IC, stays at April 15th 2007.

CMFans said...

What could be the reason for no movement for EB2 IC??. Can we expect any movement in the next bulletin??.

Wilddream said...

This is very disappointing. Do people with priority in 2007 stuck now.

Nhcreddy1 said...

The September bulletin is out.. the dates for EB2 IC didn't move..95% just became 0%..

Darinejabbour said...

Hi CM,
I am an F2b PD April 16, 2003. Can you give me approximate time of when would i get my visa number

Darinejabbour said...

sorry it is 16 April 2004

Pdl1976 said...

i don't think there will be any movement now till the next spill over season...may be Q2 of fy 2012

K .sh said...

Hi CM
The visa bulletin of october is out and it is the same as your prediction .Thanks for all you have done for us .My Pd is Oct 2006 EB3 Row .You wrote in respose to GuestDS
Eb3 row will cross 2006 in tow months .what does it mean?It means that my pd will be current in 2 months?
Thanks inadvance

RP said...

Where is CM? Everyone is eager to hear his feedback!

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

You have to wait until next year to receive EAD.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

I have not run numbers after Sep VB but I m pretty sure EB3-P may not move as quickly as EB3-ROW. So that assumption still stands.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

I will think anywhere from 8-9 months from today.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

FY 2014

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

I meant Visa. I don't think so it would affect immigration law but definitely can affect demand year to year.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

You can only add your spouse to your pending case when your PD will become current again. Unfortunately you have to wait until then to apply for her EAD/AP.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Generally demand data tells DOS based on available visa numbers until where they can move cut-off dates. e.g. If DOS have 5000 visa to use and demand data for a category tell until 01 January 2008 they have 15000 inidividuals waiting the new cut- off date will be PD of 5001th applicant. Vice-versa if demand is 3000 then cut-off date will be ,
'Current'.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Q3 FY 2012

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Please see http://www.ice.gov/doclib/sevis/pdf/ApprovedSchools.pdf

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Starting FY 2012 demand for EB3 -P is much more than monthly allocation available when compared to Eb3- row demand. So this may cause EB3-P to have different cut- off dates compared to ROW. This means ROW having later cut-off date than P for FY 2012

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Sometimes it may take few days to show up on the USCIS case tracking system. If you applied at NSC then they rerunning in some issues with online system. If you need to check your status call them and ask.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Mostly they are asking about getting current. Generally thumb rule is 5 years from PD for EB2-IC.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Please see http://us-non-immigrants.blogspot.com/2011/07/eb2-india-china-what-to-expect-in-fy.html

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Stuck until FY 2012 for sure.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Agree

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

Sorry I meant it will cross into 2006 in two months. With PD October 2006, you could have to wait until FY 2013. You may miss just by month or two. I still need to do my calculation for 2012.

Gagan said...

Our priority dat is July 23rd 2009 under EB2 category from India- with approved I-140, when can i expect EAD and than GC. Can someone help me understand, as i was reading posts and data - the applications from 2008 till 2010 are 100, will this expedite the process, as i know that most of application during the time mentioned above have not been approved Labor cert or I-140 is pending.

CM_USNonImmigrants said...

You will need to wait at least 3 years to get current. 100 that you have quoted is from Consular Processing cases that was added to the demand data. In reality PD for EB2-I never exceeded July 2007 so there is no I-485 filed beyond this PD. Once dates will start moving you will lot of new I-485 filed. There are at least 50K EB2-I individuals waiting to file between July 2007 and July 2009 date.

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